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Spanish Speaking Man Allegedly Threatens to Kill Female Co-Worker Shortly After Being Fired

The following information was supplied by the Chelmsford Police Department. Where arrests or charges are mentioned, it does not indicate a conviction.

 

Nov. 3, 7:23 p.m. – An officer was dispatched for a report of loud music at an apartment on Chelmsford Street.

Upon arriving at the apartment, the officer could not hear any noise. The officer met with the resident who the complaint was lodged against, who had a television with music on, but the officer said that the music he heard was not inappropriately loud for the time of day.

Still, the officer asked the resident to be mindful of her neighborhoods. She complied, saying she believed the neighbors were retaliating for complaints about a business the neighbors were operating out of their home.

The neighbor who reported the noise said that the woman had been running around and banging things.

Nov. 4, 11:25 a.m. – A “sick skunk” reportedly bit someone on Summit Avenue. No further information was available. 

Nov. 5, 9:38 p.m. – Police were dispatched to a business on Stuart Street after a threat made by an employee earlier in the evening.

At approximately 5:30, the employee called a female co-worker a swear word in Spanish, with his manager saying that any further comparable language would result in termination.

The employee, who did not speak English, then confronted the female co-worker again and he was terminated on the spot, with the employee then telling the female co-worker in Spanish that he would come back later that evening, threatening to murder her.

While the manager was not concerned about the terminated employee as he did not have transportation to return to the premises, he was concerned for the safety of the female employee regardless since she also did not have transportation.

The terminated employee was described as approximately 5”11 with a black jacket, black hat and black pants.

While the manager did not have issues with the employee in the past, he recently learned that he had been disrespectful to female co-workers.

The terminated employee was found and through an interpreter he said that he did use a swear word in Spanish against the female employee, but did not make a threat, stating he was just upset at being terminated.

The man was given a verbal no trespassing order. 

Iron Mike December 06, 2013 at 08:23 AM
Well, it doesn't seem like THAT story is over.... My first question is – are either of those employees here legally? Did the police even bother to ask? Are we going to spend more taxpayer money do deal with the next chapters of this saga – when at least the non-English speaker should be sent back to his country of origin before he adds to our cost of government?
Chris Gregoire December 06, 2013 at 09:33 AM
More importantly, Mike are you here legally? Have the police ever even bothered to ask you? If not, why would you expect others to be held to a standard that you've never had to put up with? Your typical "government leach" narrative doesn't even work here, since obviously this gentleman was gainfully employed with no prior history with his employer. Your inquiry as to his citizenship status and suggestion that he should be deported (for what exactly?) are completely unwarranted.
Iron Mike December 06, 2013 at 09:46 AM
Many times Christopher! When I enrolled in school, when I enlisted, when I got my first security clearance, when I enrolled in college, and in ROTC, when I was commissioned,...when I applied for driving, firearms, marriage licenses, and mortgages. Yeah, I'm pretty well documented. If Chelmsford Police – any police – upon encountering someone who doesn't speak English – and who has just threatened HARM to someone – if they AREN'T looking for documentation of legal status, - what are we paying them for? To photograph and document crime scenes? Figure it out: if this hombre was THREATENING – he's no 'gentleman'.
Chris Gregoire December 06, 2013 at 10:02 AM
You failed to answer my question and answered what you wanted to answer. None of those incidents involved the police asking you for proof of your status they involved other people/times when you were applying for something that required you to be a citizen. I asked if the police had ever bothered to ask you for proof of your citizenship. Here's a hint, it is not their job. These were municipal police, they are meant to enforce municipal laws, not federal ones. They found him, got his side of the story and decided there was cause to give him a verbal no trespassing order and no more. It sounds to me like they did their job.
Andrew Sylvia (Editor) December 06, 2013 at 10:10 AM
And to think I almost led with the sick skunk
Iron Mike December 06, 2013 at 10:11 AM
Here's a HINT for you Christopher: Our police – at all levels – are sworn to uphold the Constitution. When investigating a potential CRIME, with a viable SUSPECT, they should IDENTIFY that SUSPECT – to include his citizenship / residency status. When I've been stopped by police over some 54 years of driving, - I get asked for License, Registration, and Insurance. Once upon a time in the country Christopher, you didn't get those things without providing PROOF of Citizenship. So, YES, I've been asked for PROOF that I was here legally. You still going to cling to your liberal views when this goon commits his next violent crime? Does the name Amy Lord ring any bells? How about Matt Denice?
Iron Mike December 06, 2013 at 10:15 AM
Andrew, I'd be interested to see what you as the PRESS can find out about the guy's citizenship status - if just to resolve the issue. We should know if Chelmsford cops have been told to IGNORE the issue....
Prometheus December 06, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Every time an officer asks for your drivers license he is in essence checking our citizenship....correct? I mean illegals cannot get drivers licenses here....correct? An illegal alien with a drivers license is something the extreme right wing rants about, complains about, but is is just fiction right? Kinda like voter fraud.
Chris Gregoire December 06, 2013 at 10:21 AM
Mike, it is not their responsibility, period. With regards to your other comments, there is no evidence he committed a crime in the first place. He had a verbal altercation, she claimed he threatened her, he claimed he didn't, he was told not to come around anymore. His employer even said there were no previous incidents, I don't know what about this makes you think he is a criminal goon who I will have to answer for when he commits his "next violent crime" (here's a hint, you need to commit a first violent crime before you commit a next one). Finally, yes, I am aware of both and both are tragic, however neither incident gives police the right to harass anyone they encounter who speaks a different language.
Andrew Sylvia (Editor) December 06, 2013 at 10:25 AM
If I have time, I'll see what I can do. If it was pertinent though, it probably would have been in the report.
Prometheus December 06, 2013 at 10:27 AM
As to the skunk....was the victim thinking it was a cat....like in the eye glasses commercial?
Andrew Sylvia (Editor) December 06, 2013 at 10:34 AM
Haha, I would have loved to have known more about that one, but the report there was literally one sentence long. If the guy who was bitten by the skunk is around, I'd love to talk to him.
Iron Mike December 06, 2013 at 11:06 AM
I saw 'skunk', and immediately thought it was one of the Democrat members of the legislature...
Prometheus December 06, 2013 at 11:11 AM
No Mike....skunks have backbones....you were thinking of mollusks....but in your defense they do smell about the same.
Iron Mike December 06, 2013 at 11:12 AM
And...for the RECORD,...I show my ID each and EVERY time I vote. When the little old ladies who work the polls tell me 'that's not necessary',...I INSIST they compare the photo to me. And even though 90% of the guards know me well, I am asked for my ID every time I go on Hanscom or Devens,...or any other military base. And it happens again at every cash register there. Anybody who can't – or won't provide ID – must have something to hide,...like Obama!
Tara Dactyl December 06, 2013 at 01:24 PM
Would it be a hate crime to suggest that the Spanish speaking offender is one taco short of a Mexican platter?
Anna Bucciarelli December 06, 2013 at 07:20 PM
I wanna know if that skunk was rabid and why, Andy, did they give you such scarce information ... seems to me a crucial part of the equation. If you get bit by a wild one, the question should be addressed. As for citizenship, just because the guy doesn't speak American doesn't mean he's not here legally, perhaps on a visa, green card, whatever. I think I would wonder, tho ... why does he not know our language if he's living and working here? And, further, suspicious behavior warrants attention, first time or not, violent or not ... nastiness is a first step sometimes. Just a thought. I am neither here nor there on this, don't know the legalities as far as local police investigations go. I will say that if I were the female involved in this altercation, I'd be very worried about my safety, no matter that he was told to stay away.
Dirgni San December 07, 2013 at 09:28 AM
I didn't know there were so many bigots in Chelmsford.
Anna Bucciarelli December 07, 2013 at 02:51 PM
Dirgni ... don't make assumptions based upon comments by a few people. Not everyone thinks the same.
Andrew Sylvia (Editor) December 07, 2013 at 04:44 PM
A few things here. #1. - If the skunk was rabid, that probably would have been mentioned, but if I get time I'll ask. #2. To my knowledge, not knowing English is not in itself probable cause for police to investigate someone. #3. All of this stuff I put in these logs is public information, nothing is stopping anybody from requesting it.
Al December 08, 2013 at 08:28 AM
Dirgni, there are a vocal few on this website but luckily they don't show their face in public...where they'd have to show how all their preaching about civic pride and genteel behavior is self serving tripe (they can't go two minutes without disparaging over half the population of their fellow citizens...nevermind migrants or -gasp - foreiigners). My grandparents barely spoke English and lived here for decades, as far as I know they didn't get some kind of crash course Rosetta Stone class on Ellis Island. Though they were told "dagos need not apply"....probably by Mike & Tara's grandparents. Doesn't matter, they are trolls and as long as you don't go under any bridges you'll only hear their growling in passing :) As for myself, I'm not assuming the guy has good intentions but it's tough when one person doesn't speak the language - having been falsely accused of theft in Japan one time I can tell you there are lots of unscrupulous people who would take advantage of your foreigner status. If the female was telling the truth it's a tough position - he could be a hothead who just got fired spouting off, or an actual unstable man. Glad we have mike here to clear up these questions. Tara, your high school grade humor needs some work. Maybe try running your material by someone other than your cats before deciding you have a winner. Mexican platters don't exist and most people these days know about the Alamo except that it was a passable made-for-TV movie with Billy Bon Thornton (that was totally fictionalized) ...or maybe that it was one of the stupidest bullnosed tactical decisions in us history. That was a big L in the W/L category.
Anna Bucciarelli December 08, 2013 at 04:43 PM
Al ... all well said. My folks were in the same position as yours, tho with 6 kids they were forced in time to learn to speak American. It was tough for them tho as I'm sure you will testify of your own situation. My papa had his name changed by the Ellis Is. person taking down information and it turned out that the name he was given was, translated from Italian, "my God", and papa kept it ... what choice? We kids always loved our name. Andy ... bet you never though the Police/Fire logs would draw this much attention:).
Dirgni San December 08, 2013 at 05:29 PM
Anna, why do you refer to English as "American"?
Anna Bucciarelli December 08, 2013 at 06:32 PM
I consider our language to be "American-English". I don't have an agenda, if that's what you're asking, I simply use the term "American" because this is my home and I like feeling as though I am speaking the language of my home land. BTW, although I am of Italian descent, I consider myself Native American since I was born and bred here and it is my native country. Some may disagree and that is their privilege ... I simply determined at a very young age that I am native to only this nation and am very proud of it and choose to think I speak an American language (tho I am quasi fluent in Italian). Not complicated, just my personal interpretation of my position in this great land that has my heart and soul.
Andrew Sylvia (Editor) December 08, 2013 at 08:09 PM
Anna, I'm glad they're drawing so much attention. It keeps me on my toes!
Anna Bucciarelli December 09, 2013 at 08:29 PM
Andy ... how 'bout tap dancing to see that I begin to get my daily Patch and emails ... have Brooklyn in NY working on it, Danielle and another girl who took over when D was vacationing, and still nada. I think it's time for the big brass (YOU) to get on the case of my missing Patch!!!!!

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