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Tiano Says Student Safety Is Number One Priority

School Committee discusses student safety for 2013.

 

 

In its first meeting of 2013, the Chelmsford School Committee discussed a variety of topics from donations to cameras, but one stuck out: student safety.

Addressing student safety issues following the wake of the recent tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, the board went into a more somber, but optimistic tone as Chelmsford Public School Superintendent Frank Tiano took on this concern on a local level, saying that student safety is the school system’s “number one priority.”

During Tiano’s comments to the board, he noted that he’s currently working closely Chelmsford Chief of Police James Murphy on student safety issues as well as developing plans directly with school administrators to keep the school system as fortified and safe as possible.

Chelmsford School Committee Vice Chair Michael Rigney, who has children in the school system, talked about their feelings of security and safety while at school.

“They are feeling safe,” said Rigney.

Tiano added that parents and teachers have done “an outstanding job” to reassure safety to students across Chelmsford, and that local residents can remain optimistic that everything that can possibly be done to assure school safety is being implemented.

“Statistically, schools are the safest place where your kids can be,” said Tiano.   

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Iron Mike

8:04 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Did the committee discuss how many students are currently on anti-psychotic drugs – as all the recent spree killers have been?

Did they discuss having armed guards, and letting teachers and staffers volunteer to be armed?

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Steve

9:31 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

The fact that the recent spree killers have been on these drugs does not necessarily mean that everyone that is on these drugs is a violent killer. "All thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs."

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Iron Mike

9:41 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

But all [or most] people on anti-psychotic drugs – are psychotic!

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Andrew Sylvia

10:28 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Hi Mike,

So you're implying that anyone on anti-psychotic drugs is a murderer waiting to happen?

Fred Oleary

8:49 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Mike, instead of being obtuse just say what you are advocating for.

Are you saying the school board should register all kids on meds, or be able to override a doctors order? I would think the fact that "all the recent spree killers" were on meds would be elementary as obviously they had mental issues.

Also show us a list of teachers volunteering to be mercenaries. I would like to see this spontaneous outpouring of machismo from our teachers. They are already overpaid so why not add "full time bodyguard" to the list? Maybe then we can sue them if a shooter manages to kill some kids on their watch.

It astounds me that you regularly berate these people as being morons and yet now are vociferously advocating we put weapons in their hands and tell them to play Charles Bronson. These are not military personnel they are educators. And it's not like Chelmsford has been overcome by shootings. I guarantee that if you let more people carry you'd have more gun crime - but if you disagree then lets agree to mandate all postal workers carry weapons too, given their rate of gun violence they clearly need the right to defend themselves.

It's not like having a gun is a magic cure all - look at Fort Hood, trained military officers killed by the dozen even though they had ready access to "assault " rifles, grenades, etc .

Also why isn't the fire department arming firemen after that recent ambush shooting? Clearly they need guns not hoses.

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Iron Mike

9:14 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Gee Fred, did something I wrote 'set you off' this morning?

I asked if the School Committee had considered having a list of kids who are taking anti-psychotic drugs.

While liberals are quick to attack 'GUNS' as the cause of spree killings and school shootings, - there IS another factor that runs through ALL the cases – Tucson, Aurora, Olympia, and Sandy Hook. DID the Committee discuss it?

Your use of the tern 'gun violence' is a total disservice to any sane discussion about spree killers. In China and Japan they use knives. Guns kill nobody – they just sit there – until an insane or enraged person picks it up.

I'm glad that you've enjoyed a SAFE and PROTECTED life – as evidenced by your rhetoric. Clearly you've never been in danger of being shot. BTW, the soldiers at Fort Hood were in a processing center – totally UNARMED – totally DEFENSLESS – and with limited escape routes, – so your snarky attempt at comparison makes you look...uninformed at best,...or willing to distort the facts.

Did you EVER consider what and who has given you your safe protected life?

Why would you want to keep school kids in a vulnerable and unprotected target-enriched shooting gallery? If banks, armored cars, and the TD Garden are protected by armed guards – why NOT schools?

If our presidents and governors are protected by armed guards, why not our kids?

Fred Oleary

9:13 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Bottom line, people need to understand the trade off with weapons before they go fetishizing them as magical talismans. My sister is a cop as my grandfather was and they've seen point blank shootouts where nobody got hit.

When I moved to Dorchester for a couple years I was intent on arming and protecting myself until a fried of mine ( long time martial arts instructor) gave me this book. It is a fascinating read and I swear saved my life.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1594391181

I had a gun pulled on me four times in those years and tree of those guys went to jail because of my actions. I have no doubt I would be dead if I had a gun.

The fact is we can't model all your gun rights discussions around mass murderers - the majority of gun crime is at the personal level not the spree situation. Let people own guns, let them have automatics if they register them all , and let the jail time for unregistered guns be 5 years in prison. But saying educators should be self defense experts is insane.

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Iron Mike

9:57 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Gee Fred, it sounds like you're a mugger-magnet...

We see things differently. Perhaps those muggers came at you because you looked vulnerable. [Ever hear of a spree killer attacking a shooting range?]

While you're bragging that 3 muggers went to jail, - I see that as merely recycling problems,...at taxpayer expense. And the 4th one is still out there?

As for jail time for gun crimes, tell that to Jack Maguire. You can't – he was killed by paroled 3 x lifer Dominic Cinelli – who had already SHOT a security guard during a previous robbery. Massachusetts doesn't believe in real life sentences – or the Death Penalty.

Had Adam Lanza shot up the Byam School – and been captured – he'd have a team of Boston lawyers trying to get him off on an 'insanity plea'.

Anna Bucciarelli

9:17 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

"Statistically, schools are the safest place where your kids can be." Bet that's what the folks in CT thought too. Things just happen sometimes ... I like what I saw in last night's news on WBZ, forgot the town, think Sudbury. School doors are locked, a camera device outside the school building identifies any visitor and if the visitor is not recognized, an ID or pass must be shown to the camera and if still unrecognized, entry cannot occur. But ... but, the doors were all glass ... I don't think there is anything that is foolproof. Who really knows how safe our kids are, in or out of school? Repeat, things just happen sometimes and we can apply all the safeguards we can think of and still tragedy's occur.

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Tim Miranda

12:08 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Sure, things just happen sometimes. But it's important to consider the raw truth of statistics and probability. What would protect our kids more in terms of addressing situations where kids are most likely to get hurt or killed? Investing in armed guards and introducing lethal weapons on school grounds? Improving after school programs? Better parks and playgrounds? Better and safer transportation options?

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Anna Bucciarelli

12:57 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

If we knew the answer to your questions, we'd not be discussing this at all. I would venture that improvements as you suggest, all around, wouldn't be a bad thing but even at that, what insurance do we have that things can go wrong? No easy answers and the discussion goes on ... I sure don't know any of the answers, I just say a prayer or two when my kid leaves the house every day.

Tyler Jozefowicz

1:11 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

In the long run, restrictions on guns are the most logical approach. Have to laugh at the attempt here to change the subject from lethal guns to psychotic drugs. There are about 300 million guns in the United States and over 11,000 murders by guns last year. my suggestion- focus on the guns.,the mentally deranged and psychotic drugs , protecting the home or hunting with semi-automatic weapons with 30 bullet magazines are the problem, gun shows, background checks, waiting periods. Amazed that these common sense measures have not been put into effect yet, but then again there is the NRA, and the government tyranny nut cases out there. Nice try , though.

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Iron Mike

1:26 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Tyler, your ideas about guns are the SPECIFIC reason Americans are out buying them – even at inflated prices – right now.

Most thinking Americans – the ones who KNOW history – know that gun-grabbing by dictators preceded EACH and EVERY mass murder in the past century. Please google them before responding with more ignorance.

There is NO WAY 80 million honest responsible law-abiding Americans are going to give up their guns. We remember Wounded Knee, the Ludlow Massacre, Ruby Ridge and Waco.

With the kind of government we have now – forcing us to buy medical insurance, forcing us to modify our homes, forcing us to drive certain cars, and continually raising our taxes, - Americans would be utter FOOLS to ever give up our guns.

We're just inches away from tyranny now, - and the Obama government has just bought 1,300,000,000 rounds of small-arms ammo – enough to shoot EACH of us 4 times.

Iron Mike

1:11 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

TO: Andrew Silvia

>> So you're implying that anyone on anti-psychotic drugs is a murderer waiting to happen?

HARDLY! But the dirty secret nobody wants to talk about is that there are kids - teenagers - and adults who HAVE been diagnosed as DANGEROUSLY psychotic - and they're being treated with drugs while 'professionals' try to mainstream them.

AND - citing 'privacy' they won't tell schools WHO these kids are. So when an Adam Lanza shows up back at the school he attended - somehow he gets in. Jared Laughner - the Tucson shooter - was another...

While spree killings are really quite rare, they happen in all countries.

Tim Miranda just suggested 'better playgrounds'... Sorry, my eyeballs are rolling. Playgrounds won't protect your kids from a crazed shooter - or a drug dealer. A trained armed guard will.

Or, as Anna does, - you can just pray.... My mother used to say 'The Lord helps those, - who help themselves..." The Israelis are surrounded by crazed madmen. They learned to deal with school shootings in the 50s. Their teachers are armed; and you don't hear about school shootings there anymore.

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Andrew Sylvia

1:13 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Thanks for the clarification, Mike. Just wanted to make sure, I figured additional information on your views would be helpful in this discussion.

TB

1:55 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

I agree with Iron Mike about the anti-psychotic drugs. I think Doctors are way to quick to prescribe these drugs to children, it makes it easier for everyone involved. Its easier on the doctor and the parents. Its not on the child though. I think one big epidemic that is being ignored,is the over medication of our children. No one knows the long term effect these drugs have on the brain. And, no I don't think that anyone on anti-psychotic drugs are murderers waiting to happen. I just feel that there is other ways to deal with all these diagnosis, like ocd, adhd. Like get the kids away from the TV, video games, and play outside. And, as far as banning guns from law abiding citizens. I saw a movie once where only the state and the police had guns, it was called schindler's list. I for one don't want to live in a Country like that and sure as hell don't want my children to grow up in a country like that.

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Iron Mike

2:18 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Tango Yankee TB. I just sent Andrew a private email - with some of my blog entries on this sad and emotional subject.

Of course some folks are very quick 'not to let a good crisis go to waste'.

Before people start talking about rounding up guns [the things that made us free] - they need to study the list of mass killings by dictators in the 20th Century. Start with the three Pashas....

While the left is quick to equate the NRA with murder, it is the 'Special Needs Industry' with their insistance that even the most dangerous psychotics can be 'mainstreamed' - who are the greater lobbying force.

And when things blow up - like Tucson, Aurora, or Sandy Hook - they quickly use the cloak of 'PRIVACY' to withhold the medical history from the public.

Thus the public is left to make their next life-critical decision - without all the facts. Easier to blame 'guns' and the NRA, - which won't stop the next spree killer.

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Andrew Sylvia

3:59 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Thanks again for that Mike,

And just to clarify and reiterate on my part, my concern here was that Mike's comments could be taken out of context and cause strife on here, I figured additional clarification would help avoid that.

My goal is open and civil dialogue between users of all viewpoints, I don't support or opoose any viewpoint in my role here.

concerned parent

7:52 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

You say students safety is priority??? Then when on earth has the McCarthy NOT have one lock down yet? You say students feel safe? maybe you should talk to the 5th graders at mccarthy and ask them if they know what to do and where to go in the new school? Yes the schools following the same procedures but the 5th graders are new to the school and some things are different. I as a parent have a knot in my stomach everytime I drop my child off in the morning.

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Mike Rigney

4:11 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Hi concerned parent. When I say my kids feel safe at McCarthy, it's based on my conversations with them. We've talked about their fire drills and bus evacuation drills as well as their general sense of how they feel in the school. They have also pointed out to me that there has not been a lockdown drill yet this year, but that will happen in the near future. A comprehensive safety plan must address more than just lockdowns.

Your point about incoming students is a good one and the school spends a lot of time the first week or so helping them get the lay of the land. I don't know if that includes a review of safety procedures but I agree that would be a good idea.

I'm sorry that you aren't comfortable when you drop your child off. We work hard to make sure the schools are safe environments and to make sure that every student, teacher, and parent has confidence that they are. If you or anyone else want to discuss this further, please feel free to contact me. If you have specific recommendations or questions about our safety procedures I would also encourage you to reach out to your school's principal or Superintendent Tiano.

Iron Mike

2:29 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

BREAKING: 2:20 PM Thursday Jan 10th

SHOTGUN used in school shooting – Taft, Calif – one student wounded – one in custody. Think we'll EVER get the shooter's medical history?

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concerned parent

6:16 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Mike Rigney, Thank you for your generous reply. Its nice to finally get one. I did speak with the Mr. Mcphee and I will the rest of the conversation for a private one. I feel very comfortable dropping my son off at the Harrington. I absolutly love Mr. Lacava! He is extremely friendly, helping, caring ect. The secrataries, nurse, teachers are also very nice. Another school shooting happened today. It makes me sick to my stomach to feel so unsafe dropping my daughter off. I know her teachers will do what they have to to protect the kids But I still feel unsafe. Maybe I am just being over the top and sensative. Again thank you for replying to me.

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Anna Bucciarelli

8:39 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Andrew ... given the real concerns of some of the parents of kids at McCarthy and the HS, do you think it would be wise for Tiano to see some of these comments so that he can properly address them? Is there way to get these messages to him?

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